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<blockquote data-quote="Dennis Crowley" data-source="post: 5231" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>As you know Steve the ombudsman is not always right, we have dealt with a situation between two parties where the ombudsman said any information about that situation should be given to the parties involved. We argued that no, there is a privacy of persons involved that is not needed for the dispute. If we just go with the ombudsman suggestion, that would mean that anyone can ask for any information about any levy payer and we would have to give it, all their info about where their sites are how many hives etc etc. So we have to spend time on lawyers to challenge the ombudsman (they aren't GOD) as they too get it wrong. We do take on their suggestions to see if there is somethings we can/have to do better, but we ain't going to give anyone's info because someone is going on a fishing exercise trying to find something to go, gotcha. Any levy payer is allowed to ask for an OIA, but be specific in what you are wanting to know, and not a catchall for everything.</p><p>As to your concerns, I think your main concern is you don't like APINZ, in which case you can join and put your name to be on the board and change from within that you think is needed. You could also put your name forward to be on the AFB board when elections come around.</p><p>As to your suggestion about having two govt people on the board and maybe 3 beekeepers, we already have that now, as to governance training, yes more money could be spent on that, but at this time because governance training can run into the $10000s is not high on the list at this time. But we have people who have had governance training that we call upon for advice.</p><p>Sometimes as you know that some people make OIA claims and as they don't get their pet wish, they take that as meaning there is something wrong with an organization. </p><p>But as I said before the timing is good for you now to make submissions to the plan, airing things just on here they may not make it into the submissions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dennis Crowley, post: 5231, member: 63"] As you know Steve the ombudsman is not always right, we have dealt with a situation between two parties where the ombudsman said any information about that situation should be given to the parties involved. We argued that no, there is a privacy of persons involved that is not needed for the dispute. If we just go with the ombudsman suggestion, that would mean that anyone can ask for any information about any levy payer and we would have to give it, all their info about where their sites are how many hives etc etc. So we have to spend time on lawyers to challenge the ombudsman (they aren't GOD) as they too get it wrong. We do take on their suggestions to see if there is somethings we can/have to do better, but we ain't going to give anyone's info because someone is going on a fishing exercise trying to find something to go, gotcha. Any levy payer is allowed to ask for an OIA, but be specific in what you are wanting to know, and not a catchall for everything. As to your concerns, I think your main concern is you don't like APINZ, in which case you can join and put your name to be on the board and change from within that you think is needed. You could also put your name forward to be on the AFB board when elections come around. As to your suggestion about having two govt people on the board and maybe 3 beekeepers, we already have that now, as to governance training, yes more money could be spent on that, but at this time because governance training can run into the $10000s is not high on the list at this time. But we have people who have had governance training that we call upon for advice. Sometimes as you know that some people make OIA claims and as they don't get their pet wish, they take that as meaning there is something wrong with an organization. But as I said before the timing is good for you now to make submissions to the plan, airing things just on here they may not make it into the submissions. [/QUOTE]
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