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Alexandra
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Well at least photos of them exist 🤷😂 I've spent months trying to find a Carniolan breeder to buy a nuc from that doesn't want 500 bucks for it 😭😂 any suggestions would be appreciated, I still want to try them out in central Otago 👋 👍 😃
 
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Hamilton
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Well at least photos of them exist 🤷😂 I've spent months trying to find a Carniolan breeder to buy a nuc from that doesn't want 500 bucks for it 😭😂 any suggestions would be appreciated, I still want to try them out in central Otago 👋 👍 😃

You can get queens from this trade me add


Or you can get queens from them
 
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Waikouaiti
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Try Otto hyink in Dunedin. I get carnie cells of him. Once u go black u don’t go back. There is a lot of myths about carnies ie aggrsive behaviour and swarming. The only difference I notice compared to Italians is the queens are harder to find and they winter down in smaller clusters hence consuming less stores. They are perfect for south Islang conditions
 
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Hamilton
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Currently the Carniolans are doing better for me than the Italians. I am in Hamilton. Both lines are not pure bred though. Queens are Carniolan and Italian which are open mated. I only keep a few hives now a days as a hobby, so not a big sample size.
 
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Alexandra
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Try Otto hyink in Dunedin. I get carnie cells of him. Once u go black u don’t go back. There is a lot of myths about carnies ie aggrsive behaviour and swarming. The only difference I notice compared to Italians is the queens are harder to find and they winter down in smaller clusters hence consuming less stores. They are perfect for south Islang conditions
Ok, I'll try to locate him.thank you. I've been cautioned by a few people using them in the united states commercially that carnies are swarm prone but that's an ideal trait for splits too which is what I need to do, since I'm starting from scratch again 😂 I couldn't believe how much trouble finding someone breeding them down here I had, thanks so much for giving me a lead, I really appreciate it.
 

Dansar

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Ok, I'll try to locate him.thank you. I've been cautioned by a few people using them in the united states commercially that carnies are swarm prone but that's an ideal trait for splits too which is what I need to do, since I'm starting from scratch again 😂 I couldn't believe how much trouble finding someone breeding them down here I had, thanks so much for giving me a lead, I really appreciate it.
If you use social media, message me on Dansar Bees , Instagram page and I’ll give you contact details for Wouter.
 
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I don't want to upset you, but most likely all that's left of the Carnica is its color... Studying the forum, I concluded that the Carnica came to NZ in the early 2000s. It came in the form of a capillary with sperm, for biosafety reasons. More than 20 years have passed. And without the influx of new blood, this genetics would have become closely related, which would have resulted in a loss of vitality in bees. With constant crossing with the local population, there will invariably be absorbing crossing. After 7 generations of crossing, little remains of the original line. There is a misconception that a "breed" a priori should show stable certain characteristics. You have a closed population of bees in the country, and the colonies behave differently and are very different from each other. Carnica would not be Carnica if the institutes of Kirchein and Celle had not worked on it, there were no isolated mating stations, there was no special beebreed program that calculates which combinations to mate and a very large number of breeders of this bee who improve it. After all, initially, Carnica was a rather angry and swarming bee. And only human labor made it what it is now.
 
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