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Do I extract or leave for winter feed?
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<blockquote data-quote="tristan" data-source="post: 9592" data-attributes="member: 30"><p>your missing the basic principles of beekeeping.</p><p>you need to give them what they need.</p><p></p><p>the brood needs to run at a certain size. having to many brood boxes is not a problem, they fill the space with honey. ie two FD brood boxes will generally have a good layer of honey in the 2nd box.</p><p>however to small means the queen will run out of lay space and they will swarm like crazy. so we need to make sure the brood aera is big enough.</p><p>a single FD is a tad undersized. two FD is good a bit oversized but some hives will run more brood than others so having spare space is not a bad idea.</p><p>two 3/4's works well. some people use three.</p><p></p><p>as far as supers go, you put on what they need.</p><p>you need to make the hive big enough so it can house the bees without them being overcrowded.</p><p>then you need to have enough supers to collect the honey. so you will collect whatever the surplus amount is. if you don't want that much then bottle it and give it to friends etc. remember there is bad years. you often get one good year and 3-4 bad ones. so storing jars of honey away is not a bad idea.</p><p>plus leaving a good amount on the hive for winter reduces the amount you might have to feed.</p><p></p><p>if you don't put enough supers on you the hive will back fill the brood. thats good at the end of the flow but if that happens early the hive will lose bee numbers and make it weak. weak hive are venerable. you always want hives going into winter strong.</p><p></p><p>no1 thing with bees is they expand, gather their crop, then reduce in size. its up to you to go with them. forcing them to do against that will cause you big problems.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tristan, post: 9592, member: 30"] your missing the basic principles of beekeeping. you need to give them what they need. the brood needs to run at a certain size. having to many brood boxes is not a problem, they fill the space with honey. ie two FD brood boxes will generally have a good layer of honey in the 2nd box. however to small means the queen will run out of lay space and they will swarm like crazy. so we need to make sure the brood aera is big enough. a single FD is a tad undersized. two FD is good a bit oversized but some hives will run more brood than others so having spare space is not a bad idea. two 3/4's works well. some people use three. as far as supers go, you put on what they need. you need to make the hive big enough so it can house the bees without them being overcrowded. then you need to have enough supers to collect the honey. so you will collect whatever the surplus amount is. if you don't want that much then bottle it and give it to friends etc. remember there is bad years. you often get one good year and 3-4 bad ones. so storing jars of honey away is not a bad idea. plus leaving a good amount on the hive for winter reduces the amount you might have to feed. if you don't put enough supers on you the hive will back fill the brood. thats good at the end of the flow but if that happens early the hive will lose bee numbers and make it weak. weak hive are venerable. you always want hives going into winter strong. no1 thing with bees is they expand, gather their crop, then reduce in size. its up to you to go with them. forcing them to do against that will cause you big problems. [/QUOTE]
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