Plastic vs wood frames

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Hi all.

I've tried plastic frames for the first time in a hive. I'm finding the bees glue them to the top cover and between boxes more than they seem to with wood frames.

The out come is taking the cover off or moving a box is much harder. I crack the edges but lifting or twisting the box / cover pulls up a frame or two ... really annoying the bees.

Have I got a special needs hive or is this normal with plastic frames?

I've also noted my hive doctor bases seem to have more bottom edge comb too.
 
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yes they do glue them in a bit more, but that also happens with wood frames as well. a lot of it really depends on how long the boxes have been on the hive.
you simply need to get your hive opening technique a bit better. crack the lid/box a bit, smoke the gap, then prise the frames down.
 

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I suggest these wedges would be a convenient shape.....dip the knob in red paint so you can find it in the grass... I'm not related to the vendor....

 
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I suggest these wedges would be a convenient shape.....dip the knob in red paint so you can find it in the grass... I'm not related to the vendor....

They look good ... however I run a community workshop and if was found out buying wood products .....
I think I might have a crack making them on a lathe. I'll see how they go.
 

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I thought about buying a lathe & making them. Until I found that listing.
I have a wood lathe and have made 100's of them as door stops. I cannot be bothered with making them now as they are now made on automatic machines and imported from overseas and the price made in unviable to make them.
 
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I have a wood lathe and have made 100's of them as door stops. I cannot be bothered with making them now as they are now made on automatic machines and imported from overseas and the price made in unviable to make them.
I hear you. It's like wooden bowls. Try selling a rimu or other native timber bowl on trademe and you get a few dollars. Overseas rubbish and auto lathes competitors.

However as a project to teach skills the wedges will work well. Did you used to make two at a time, then cut diagonal? Also the knobs .. I assume waste wood outside then then sand off.
 

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I have a wood lathe and have made 100's of them as door stops. I cannot be bothered with making them now as they are now made on automatic machines and imported from overseas and the price made in unviable to make them.
if I can make it I will. The best it being tool justification.

If I can buy it local, that’s step two. If I can’t my next question is “do I need it?”

but it’s crazy, a new sail for my old Opti was going to cost $800 but is only $200 from China. Very hard to take the moral high ground.
 

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Did you used to make two at a time, then cut diagonal? Also the knobs .. I assume waste wood outside then then sand off.
Yes. I made them in pairs. Good skew chisel training. Then cut diagonally on a sledge on saw bench.
I also used to inlay a 5cent coin into them. Yes also trim and sand the ends.
 


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