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<blockquote data-quote="John B" data-source="post: 12946" data-attributes="member: 207"><p>Bee stocks in New Zealand have been managed for quite a long time and through a large number of generations. Over this time swarming is one of the characteristics that has been selected against. For all sorts of reasons including genetic, environmental and beekeeper variability a total lack of swarming has never been achieved as far as I know and as others have said some areas are far worse for swarming than others however in general our bees swarm a lot less than they used to. The point I was trying to make is that current beekeepers are not working with a truly wild unselected stock in fact quite the opposite. It has taken a long time to get to the point we are at at the moment and to encourage the use of swarmy genetics seems a major step backwards to me and if everybody took to doing it we might very quickly end up with bees like they were 100 years ago and then people might realise why beekeeper selected against unwanted characteristics in the first place.</p><p>It's not that I would never use a swarm cell. If I find a queenless hive and the only thing I have available is a swarm cell then I will use it but I also have a regular requeening policy which will soon enough remove both the swarming hive and her daughter from the gene pool.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John B, post: 12946, member: 207"] Bee stocks in New Zealand have been managed for quite a long time and through a large number of generations. Over this time swarming is one of the characteristics that has been selected against. For all sorts of reasons including genetic, environmental and beekeeper variability a total lack of swarming has never been achieved as far as I know and as others have said some areas are far worse for swarming than others however in general our bees swarm a lot less than they used to. The point I was trying to make is that current beekeepers are not working with a truly wild unselected stock in fact quite the opposite. It has taken a long time to get to the point we are at at the moment and to encourage the use of swarmy genetics seems a major step backwards to me and if everybody took to doing it we might very quickly end up with bees like they were 100 years ago and then people might realise why beekeeper selected against unwanted characteristics in the first place. It's not that I would never use a swarm cell. If I find a queenless hive and the only thing I have available is a swarm cell then I will use it but I also have a regular requeening policy which will soon enough remove both the swarming hive and her daughter from the gene pool. [/QUOTE]
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