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<blockquote data-quote="John B" data-source="post: 13216" data-attributes="member: 207"><p>Just out of interest did their extensive consultation include anyone on the forum . It certainly didn't include all their members as I am one and don't recall any consultation. </p><p>Gino is right in that it seems to totally ignore pollination whereas the reality is far as New Zealand's economy is concerned is that honey is a relatively unimportant byproduct compared to the value of pollination and in many areas the vital pollination of clover has been seriously compromised by existing beekeepers being driven out of business by corporate type manuka producers flooding their areas with huge numbers of hives and making honey production non-viable and yet when hives are needed to pollinate the clover they are not there. As for doubling the value I find it hard to see how something that is already overhyped, overpriced and oversupplied is going to do anything but decrease in price. That is a market reality.</p><p>Initially getting good money for manuka was a godsend to New Zealand beekeepers but in the end it led to huge problems not the least of which is the total fragmentation of the beekeeping industry and the lack of trust and animosity between beekeepers that is now the norm.</p><p>In the last few years I have seen a mellowing of some of the problems and more willingness to cooperate but I can't see this doing anything but make things worse again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John B, post: 13216, member: 207"] Just out of interest did their extensive consultation include anyone on the forum . It certainly didn't include all their members as I am one and don't recall any consultation. Gino is right in that it seems to totally ignore pollination whereas the reality is far as New Zealand's economy is concerned is that honey is a relatively unimportant byproduct compared to the value of pollination and in many areas the vital pollination of clover has been seriously compromised by existing beekeepers being driven out of business by corporate type manuka producers flooding their areas with huge numbers of hives and making honey production non-viable and yet when hives are needed to pollinate the clover they are not there. As for doubling the value I find it hard to see how something that is already overhyped, overpriced and oversupplied is going to do anything but decrease in price. That is a market reality. Initially getting good money for manuka was a godsend to New Zealand beekeepers but in the end it led to huge problems not the least of which is the total fragmentation of the beekeeping industry and the lack of trust and animosity between beekeepers that is now the norm. In the last few years I have seen a mellowing of some of the problems and more willingness to cooperate but I can't see this doing anything but make things worse again. [/QUOTE]
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