A slight aside, just wondering if anyone is still paying site rents these days?
nope but we didn’t anyway.
only pay in honey
A slight aside, just wondering if anyone is still paying site rents these days?
How do you take the human element out of it? As a primary industry, a boom and bust is no different to many . . .and many of those industries have gone on to boom again.
It's also interesting that many see the manuka boom as unwanted - and yet the same people complain about the lower prices now. So its good to see prices are at least at (slightly above?) the cost of production, rather than previously.
We looked at the goat milk industry 30 years ago as it was cheaper to get into than dairy, but it was on the brink of falling over.And look at the industries that have suffered busts (or three in the case of kiwifruit) and then gone on to boom again.
Grapes, kiwifruit (well, a bust this year), deer and even wool is showing positive signs (eg WoolWise).
What’s the human effect that will lead to the next apiculture boom?
Gangbusters? Not everywhere it seems. There's this below, and I believe one or two northern waikato outfits are in strife....
Oh well, they are doing better than 30yrs ago, but I guess a few are struggling like other industries.Yes, rely of mine milking goats in dire straights right now, just as bad as beekeeping.
Maybe it's time to put on the fishnets and ply the streets, but I'm sure even there mpi/govt would have their hand out for every bonk.
Nope , the goat milk is in a bust phaseWe looked at the goat milk industry 30 years ago as it was cheaper to get into than dairy, but it was on the brink of falling over.
Now they control who can milk and where they can milk and going gangbusters.
Maybe a lesson in there for someone.
And "any one test" . . .what are the markers here ??im sure you would have to meet the MPI standard for genuine bonking first, if it fails on any one test you might need to blend with a couple of other Fishnet wearers to get the desired mix….could be a bit of fun 😂
And "any one test" . . .what are the markers here ??
Tell him to look into putting his milk through a reverse osmosis twice while still warm from the goat, reduce fluid content by 60% then fly it to SEAsia .... in 1990 when I was planning to do just that. Goat milk was $11 per liter retail in Hongkong, Taiwan and Singapore (good tax deductible bit of research travel) and the payout by the coop was under $10 kg solids - goat milk is 11% soilds. I was lucky they changed the zoning on my 100 acres and I did a subdivision instead and sold the 300 kids I contract reared for $70 a head for $300 - never made so much from an animal in such a short time!Yes, rely of mine milking goats in dire straights right now, just as bad as beekeeping.
We are working in a free market and playing on a global commercial stage. You are asking to remove supply v demand from the equation. This is impossible.I would love to know in advance that Our honey would be bought by X at X amount of dollars before we supered up for the flow.
I would like to see a more centralised system where the various packers aren’t fighting for shelf space and all that entails.
I have seen no interest in this at the commercial end of the industry. Where are you seeing this interest?There certainly has been more interest in a Zespri, Fonterra type of supply and sell system.
It will take a lot of clever people and a huge commitment of long term financial support from not only the beekeeping industry but also private investment.
Absolutely agreepart of the costs increase is our own doing.
many beeks have been running inefficient business because they could afford to.
but also with some of the expenses, eg testing. many still test per drum and sell per drum. instead of testing (and selling) per batch (eg 10 drums).
people complain about treatment cost, but its not really all that much. many firms have excess staff which costs them substantially more.
i think there will be more focus on machinery and setups to be as efficient as possible so less staff are needed. but also retaining good staff.
that requires money upfront, and lack of investment has been a big issue. i think many went down the route of lots of cheap staff and thats bit them.